Topic starter
06/01/2011 4:24 pm
What was the history and size of this boat? The pictures I have seen seem to show it looking alot like the Delta King and Queen. I can only find one or two pictures and almost no information. Any help is appriciated.
Thanks,
Ed
Topic starter
06/01/2011 8:03 pm
Backwards
Sorry I ment to say the King and Queen look like the Fort Sutter.
06/01/2011 9:54 pm
*RE: Str. FOR SUTTER*
Hi, Ed & Steamboating collegues:
Ed, give me time and I'll drag out the 'dusty boxes' as I 'think' there's a photo here of the Str. FORT SUTTER handed to me by John Burns, son of old Jim Burns who built the DELTA KING/DELTA QUEEN
The photo I have 'may' [?] be of the FORT SUTTER on her launching day with steam already raised and her paddlwheel tethered with restraining lines so as not to 'slam' the engines when she hit the water. Indeed, the DELTA KING/DELTA QUEEN were later adaptations on these two boats when Jim Burns set out in the design/constuction. 'Form follows function' with the later boats being expanded on a classic theme. DENNY BROTHERS in Dumbarton, Scotland, did the hulls and other components, but the DK/DQ finished in California from the hulls up incorporating lumber and fine woods from there and Asia. I've posted here long ago more on the DK/DQ building and components. John Burns a real 'original' with a mind like a steel trap. Ocean liners the same with each following ship based, in many cases, on their older sisters. Well, what do I know?
R. Dale Flick
Coal Haven Landing, Ohio River, Cincinnati.
06/01/2011 10:45 pm
Ed, do you have a copy of "King and Queen of the River" by Stan Garvey? He mentions these boats in his short history of the company, and therein may be some help. If you do not have a copy, I strongly recommend you get one.
Topic starter
07/01/2011 1:00 am
King and Queen
Yes I have a copy and that is what struck my intrest. He mentions the boats and there is a picture of the boats but not the information on size and other small details. This sparked my intrest as to the size and hitsory of the boats also. There just doen't seem to be any info on this site or other sites. I am sorry to say my library is sorely lacking in material about steamboats, But it is growing. I mostly have material on the Delta Queen and Missisippi Queen.
Thanks for all the help and info,
Ed
07/01/2011 11:39 am
*RE: Str. FORT SUTTER statistics*
Hi, Ed, Bob & Steamboating colleagues:
I rummaged around here last night finding the following RE Str. FORT SUTTER. Not much but a good start.
1. Str. FORT SUTTER: Sternwheel. Tons: 1,139. Built: 1912. Disposal: 1942 to U.S. Government.
2. Str. CAPITAL CITY: Sternwheel. Tons: 1,142. Built: 1910. Disposal: 1942 to U.S. Government.
Both above vessels built at the yards of 'James Robertson Co.' San Francisco.
R. Dale Flick
Coal Haven Landing, Ohio River, Cincinnati.
08/01/2011 5:59 am
I have more information at home, but I won't be there until monday--I recently purchased a slide of the Ft. Sutter in San Francisco, supposed to be in the early '60s, but I thought she burned earlier than that. Haven't had time to look over my info!
It is "spooky" how similar they look to the DQ & DK!
S'
David D.
08/01/2011 6:18 am
Ed in Paddle-wheel days in California The Fort Sutter a stern wheeler 1,139 Tons 219.2 feet length built 1912 sold US 1942. Capital City was 220 feet long She was renamed Port of Stockton before the war. The ort Sutter and Capital City both came out with state rooms that had private baths. They got the cream of the business until the King and Queen came out. a note of caution, the H. J. Corcoran was known in her later years and the Crockett and the Fort Sutter, she was 209.5 feet long when built in 1898. Rebuilt as the Crockett in 1913/1914. and lengthen to 221 feet. She also joined the US war effort in 1943.
Utah riverrat.